131 Responses to “Draft Lottery Open Thread”

1. Mike K. (KnickerBlogger) - May 20th, 2008 at 7:27 pm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TgJE7C5wiU Reply to this comment.

2. Ray - May 20th, 2008 at 7:33 pm Good luck fellas ….here we go. Reply to this comment.

3. Mike K. (KnickerBlogger) - May 20th, 2008 at 7:35 pm My TV guide says not until 8pm… Reply to this comment.

4. Temps - May 20th, 2008 at 7:52 pm Hey, Anyone got a link for a thrilled german knicksfan? Reply to this comment.

5. Roshi - May 20th, 2008 at 7:59 pm I should have dropped a gift basket at Stern’s house…he lives a few miles from my parents. Come on Stern, Daddy needs a new point guard!! Reply to this comment.

6. Owen - May 20th, 2008 at 8:03 pm We have a 16.9% chance of getting the first or second pick, which is worse than your odds with a small pair against pocket aces… But you know what, I feel good about this…. Reply to this comment.

7. Ess-dog - May 20th, 2008 at 8:07 pm Someone please post the order!!! I don’t have espn… My wife’s grandma’s name is Rose - coincidence? Reply to this comment.

8. Ess-dog - May 20th, 2008 at 8:08 pm Someone please post the order!!! I don’t have espn… My wife’s grandma’s name is Rose. And she’s from NYC. Coincidence? Reply to this comment.

9. Ess-dog - May 20th, 2008 at 8:09 pm Oops. Sorry. Balls don’t fail me now!!! Reply to this comment.

10. knickfanindc - May 20th, 2008 at 8:09 pm Pick already—lets go knicks! Reply to this comment.

11. jon abbey - May 20th, 2008 at 8:09 pm this is the season, right here. I made fun of my friend the Cavs fan for rooting for them to tank for an entire season on the statistically small chance they could get LeBron. but he did and they did. Dolan doesn’t deserve Rose, but we do. make it happen. Reply to this comment.

12. jon abbey - May 20th, 2008 at 8:10 pm Heat Sonics Wolves Grizz Knicks Clippers Bucks Bobcats Bulls Nets Pacers Kings Blazers Warriors Reply to this comment.

13. jon abbey - May 20th, 2008 at 8:10 pm sorry, that’s the order of record, not the pick order. Reply to this comment.

14. knickfanindc - May 20th, 2008 at 8:11 pm knick 3 game winning streak at end of season killing us here. Reply to this comment.

15. knickfanindc - May 20th, 2008 at 8:12 pm Rose…..please Reply to this comment.

16. knickfanindc - May 20th, 2008 at 8:12 pm commercial.argh Reply to this comment.

17. jon abbey - May 20th, 2008 at 8:13 pm “knick 3 game winning streak at end of season killing us here.” the Smiling Weasel’s last fuck you to the fans… Reply to this comment.

18. Ess-dog - May 20th, 2008 at 8:13 pm You just freaked me out for a second Jon Abbey. Reply to this comment.

19. jon abbey - May 20th, 2008 at 8:14 pm I know, sorry about that. Reply to this comment.

20. knickfanindc - May 20th, 2008 at 8:14 pm frye over bynum equals Isiah Reply to this comment.

21. jon abbey - May 20th, 2008 at 8:15 pm ok, now they’ll start opening envelopes, after this set of commercials. we’re looking for GS to kick us off. Reply to this comment.

22. jon abbey - May 20th, 2008 at 8:15 pm “frye over bynum equals Isiah” HAPPY THOUGHTS! Reply to this comment.

23. David Crockett - May 20th, 2008 at 8:16 pm Author Comment Did anyone see the Doris Burke interview with Stern? When she asked him about OJ Mayo getting paid he basically told her that’s the NCAA’s problem not mine (paraphrase). It was funny. I don’t think she was expecting that. Reply to this comment.

24. Danisrob - May 20th, 2008 at 8:16 pm haha funny about jay Z Reply to this comment.

25. jon abbey - May 20th, 2008 at 8:17 pm they always drag this out forever, it’s just been three years since we cared. Reply to this comment.

26. jon abbey - May 20th, 2008 at 8:18 pm in real life it’s been decided already, you know, underground with other representatives from each team. BUT WE DON’T KNOW YET. Reply to this comment.

27. David Crockett - May 20th, 2008 at 8:19 pm Author Comment Fred Hoiberg is in the house. I was at Mizzou when Hoiberg was da mayor of Ames, Iowa (Iowa State). It’s hard to explain how popular he was. Reply to this comment.

28. knickfanindc - May 20th, 2008 at 8:19 pm think ewing Reply to this comment.

29. jon abbey - May 20th, 2008 at 8:19 pm 14. Golden State Reply to this comment.

30. tastycakes - May 20th, 2008 at 8:19 pm I’m nervous. Reply to this comment.

31. Owen - May 20th, 2008 at 8:19 pm here we go Reply to this comment.

32. jon abbey - May 20th, 2008 at 8:19 pm 13. Portland Reply to this comment.

33. jon abbey - May 20th, 2008 at 8:19 pm 12. Sacramento Reply to this comment.

34. tastycakes - May 20th, 2008 at 8:20 pm Fuck, the Bulls moved up.. NO Reply to this comment.

35. jon abbey - May 20th, 2008 at 8:20 pm Chicago into the top 3 Reply to this comment.

36. Owen - May 20th, 2008 at 8:20 pm The Bulls have moved up? Reply to this comment.

37. David Crockett - May 20th, 2008 at 8:20 pm Author Comment 6 Reply to this comment.

38. Owen - May 20th, 2008 at 8:20 pm Agh… Reply to this comment.

39. Danisrob - May 20th, 2008 at 8:20 pm 6th! Dammit Reply to this comment.

40. David Crockett - May 20th, 2008 at 8:20 pm Author Comment damn Reply to this comment.

41. tastycakes - May 20th, 2008 at 8:20 pm Dammit. Reply to this comment.

42. jon abbey - May 20th, 2008 at 8:20 pm there it is, we’re at 6 Reply to this comment.

43. Owen - May 20th, 2008 at 8:21 pm That stinks…. Reply to this comment.

44. danny - May 20th, 2008 at 8:21 pm terrible Reply to this comment.

45. tastycakes - May 20th, 2008 at 8:21 pm I hate my life. Reply to this comment.

46. jon abbey - May 20th, 2008 at 8:21 pm Wolves stealing our top 3 pick Reply to this comment.

47. Owen - May 20th, 2008 at 8:21 pm How did they know the Bulls will be in the top three? Reply to this comment.

48. David Crockett - May 20th, 2008 at 8:22 pm Author Comment probably looking at bayless, gordon, lopez Reply to this comment.

49. danny - May 20th, 2008 at 8:22 pm d’antoni REALLY regrets passing up that Bulls job Reply to this comment.

50. tastycakes - May 20th, 2008 at 8:22 pm You know what, FUCK the Bulls. For once, I’d like MY dysfunctional franchise to get a decent goddamn pick. Reply to this comment.

51. jon abbey - May 20th, 2008 at 8:22 pm top six will be a quality player, though. Reply to this comment.

52. Ess-dog - May 20th, 2008 at 8:22 pm This is the worst possible thing to happen. The dreaded bulls move up, and we get screwed again! Reply to this comment.

53. Ben R - May 20th, 2008 at 8:22 pm That sucks. The Bulls just get richer. Can you imagine if they get Beasley. Reply to this comment.

54. jon abbey - May 20th, 2008 at 8:22 pm “d’antoni REALLY regrets passing up that Bulls job” heh, you know he was thinking that while he was sitting there. “what the fuck is wrong with me?” Reply to this comment.

55. tastycakes - May 20th, 2008 at 8:23 pm We knew the Bulls would be Top 3 because they were jumped in the draft order. If you’re at the back of the lottery and your name doesn’t get called in order .. you’re in the top 3 (the only slots that get picked at random). If the Knicks weren’t there at 6, we would have known they’d be 1, 2, or 3. But no. Reply to this comment.

56. danny - May 20th, 2008 at 8:23 pm jon abbey : “top six will be a quality player, though.” yeah, like Channing Frye or Michael Sweetney - can’t wait Reply to this comment.

57. tastycakes - May 20th, 2008 at 8:24 pm Or if the Bulls get Derrick Rose? They can kick Hinrich to the curb… they’ll be instantly so much better… damn. Reply to this comment.

58. GiantKnickFan - May 20th, 2008 at 8:24 pm I thought we were gonna get some luck but not today.. Reply to this comment.

59. tastycakes - May 20th, 2008 at 8:24 pm Hey, at least we won the coin flip with the Clips. Reply to this comment.

60. danny - May 20th, 2008 at 8:24 pm tragedy Reply to this comment.

61. Owen - May 20th, 2008 at 8:25 pm OMG Reply to this comment.

62. tastycakes - May 20th, 2008 at 8:25 pm Well, I have to say, I’m glad the Heat didn’t get #1… but they benefit either way. Reply to this comment.

63. danny - May 20th, 2008 at 8:25 pm rose is stoked though, he’s from chicago Reply to this comment.

64. Ben R - May 20th, 2008 at 8:25 pm Bulls should take Beasley they need inside scoring. Reply to this comment.

65. tastycakes - May 20th, 2008 at 8:26 pm 1.7% chance for the Bulls. Like that franchise hasn’t had enough luck over the years. Reply to this comment.

66. Owen - May 20th, 2008 at 8:26 pm How about Beasley providing some low post scoring for a team that desperately needs it? Although I guess they have to go with Rose since he is from Chicago… Unbelievable… Reply to this comment.

67. tastycakes - May 20th, 2008 at 8:26 pm “bayless, gordon, lopez?” Do we want any of those guys? I’m so depressed. Reply to this comment.

68. Ben R - May 20th, 2008 at 8:27 pm I say trade #6. How about Malik Rose and #6 for Calderon. Does Toronto bite? Reply to this comment.

69. Not Hawthorne Wingo - May 20th, 2008 at 8:27 pm Package the pick with ZBO and close your eyes till 2010. Damn! Reply to this comment.

70. Danisrob - May 20th, 2008 at 8:28 pm Hope Bayless falls or go for Augustin? Reply to this comment.

71. tdm - May 20th, 2008 at 8:28 pm Damn, is there any way we can blame Isiah? Reply to this comment.

72. Ben R - May 20th, 2008 at 8:29 pm Also at #6 Lopez, Mayo and Bayless will be gone so we have to look at the third tier. Reply to this comment.

73. Danisrob - May 20th, 2008 at 8:29 pm “Damn, is there any way we can blame Isiah?” yep - the three game win streak Reply to this comment.

74. Ray - May 20th, 2008 at 8:30 pm Rose is from Chi-town. That pick is a lock. You can write big stories about the hometown kid. We can still get quality from our pick fellas and who knows we may get an extra pick from Philly if Zach goes south. Hopefully Bayless is still on the board or its going to get interesting. Jeez….there must be a miracle waiting for us somewhere. Reply to this comment.

75. danny - May 20th, 2008 at 8:30 pm “Damn, is there any way we can blame Isiah?” yes, that 3 game winning streak was ruinous Reply to this comment.

76. caleb - May 20th, 2008 at 8:30 pm Ben R has a decent idea, altho I think they’ll exhaust their options on trading ford, before trying to move calderon. On the bright side… Don’t sleep on anthony randolph… Less a sure thing than the top 2 picks but the sky really is the limit with him. Reply to this comment.

77. W.C. - May 20th, 2008 at 8:30 pm D’Antoni must be kicking himself for not taking the Chicago job. LOL Reply to this comment.

78. Ray - May 20th, 2008 at 8:31 pm Damn we need a point guard that can ball!!! Reply to this comment.

79. caleb - May 20th, 2008 at 8:32 pm Plus we prob won’t have the option of being disappointed by mayo. Reply to this comment.

80. Ricky - May 20th, 2008 at 8:33 pm FUCK ISIAH THOMAS Reply to this comment.

81. W.C. - May 20th, 2008 at 8:33 pm Perhaps we are going to draft that Italian player now????? Reply to this comment.

82. tdm - May 20th, 2008 at 8:33 pm Seattle got hosed, but at least they got green and durant last year. I think the knicks best bet is to trade out. This could be a blessing in disguise. If the pick were one spot higher, I’d advocate keeping it but I really do not want Gordon. Reply to this comment.

83. aklvand - May 20th, 2008 at 8:34 pm o my fucking god, this is a fuckng disgrace to professional sports, every fucking team in the league is light years ahead of us, and were picking sixth are you kidding me. UGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!………………wll to look at the bright side, this is not a top heavy draft, no real MVP at the top, but its very very deep so this may not be the worst plae to pick, i say go Eric Gordon or Jerryd Baylesss, ugggggh but jeez cmon the league could at least give us the top pick we r with out a doubt in the worst shape of any team of professional sports history. Reply to this comment.

84. justin o - May 20th, 2008 at 8:37 pm that is the problem with this lottery you cant have 14 teams able to get the number 1 pick, its ridiculous, that the bulls will get a top pic….how but randolph, lee, our pick to chicago for hughes, their pick and a filler Reply to this comment.

85. Danisrob - May 20th, 2008 at 8:39 pm heat and bulls were both contenders a year and a half ago, now they have the top 2 Reply to this comment.

86. danny - May 20th, 2008 at 8:39 pm “how but randolph, lee, our pick to chicago for hughes, their pick and a filler” sure…. except that their is no chance in hell that the Bulls would do that Reply to this comment.

87. Ben R - May 20th, 2008 at 8:39 pm Caleb - I would agree about Toronto but they seem to really like Ford and he played just as much as Calderon in the playoffs. So what I am wondering is if they want to give away Ford and keep Calderon or keep Ford and a #6 pick. So the question for Toronto is what’s better Ford and the #6 or Calderon and if their lucky an expiring for Ford. Reply to this comment.

88. knickfanindc - May 20th, 2008 at 8:40 pm trade it or pick love. I read his foot speed is improving under some intense training. I was hoping we would move up a slot or two…oh well. Reply to this comment.

89. tdm - May 20th, 2008 at 8:40 pm How about NOT. Reply to this comment.

90. Jcon - May 20th, 2008 at 8:43 pm I hate our eternal enemies, the Bulls and the Heat, getting 1/2. Reply to this comment.

91. Not Hawthorne Wingo - May 20th, 2008 at 8:44 pm I got no love for Love. A decent role player at best. Either trade down or take the Italian and get him in the weight room. He won’t be any help next year but screw it, we’re going to be in the lottery next year anyway. Knicks in 2011! Reply to this comment.

92. TDM - May 20th, 2008 at 8:45 pm If the Knicks are not going to package the pick with an anchor, I’d say trade down a few and pick Westbrook. Reply to this comment.

93. mets, knicks...shoot me now - May 20th, 2008 at 8:47 pm love, r u serius he shud go no earlier than mid teens, i say gallanari, gordon or mayo Reply to this comment.

94. knickfanindc - May 20th, 2008 at 8:50 pm another good option is to trade for one of the memphis point guards conley or lowry. Reply to this comment.

95. jon abbey - May 20th, 2008 at 8:51 pm I say if Mayo and Bayless are both gone, go with Westbrook. Augustin is too frail, I think. Reply to this comment.

96. knickfanindc - May 20th, 2008 at 8:51 pm gordan and mayo are not going to be there IMHO. Reply to this comment.

97. TDM - May 20th, 2008 at 8:51 pm Forget Mayo. He’s not falling to 6. Gordon is a turnover machine. Gallinari sounds like a project, not to mention there is the Fran Vasquez issue: “I’m under contract for two more years with Olimpia Milano”, Gallinari says, “but I have a clause that allows me to get out for free this year if want to leave for the NBA”. What if he doesn’t want to play for the Knicks? We’re screwed. I say try to dump an anchor and trade out. Reply to this comment.

98. knickfanindc - May 20th, 2008 at 8:54 pm how about number 6, curry and filler for lowry and miller? Reply to this comment.

99. caleb - May 20th, 2008 at 8:55 pm Randolph, westbrook nice options. Has anyone actually seen gallinari play? Lopez or bayless could slide but I’ not sure I like them better. Would nets swap both their picks for #6? Would cleveland or philly swap picks in exchange for taking randolph’s deal? (They’d need to throw in a next year pick, maybe, and obviously salaries to match.. Reply to this comment.

100. Balkamania - May 20th, 2008 at 9:01 pm I think at 6, Kevin Love is by far the best pick. In a D’Antoni system, he could generate a lot of fast breaks with his phenomenal outlet passing. Him and D. Lee would be ferocious on the boards, unlike the tandem of Curry/Randolph. Love even has pretty good shooting range for a big man, which D’Antoni is bound to like. I would also love to trade the pick to Toronto for Calderon, but we would have to add another player and I don’t know who it’d be. Reply to this comment.

101. TDM - May 20th, 2008 at 9:01 pm I guess I could have used Milos Vujanic or Frederic Weis as examples of Euro trouble instead of Vasquez, however the point is still valid. Reply to this comment.

102. Danisrob - May 20th, 2008 at 9:12 pm Chad Ford predicts we will get Danilo Gallinari. But he also says Memphis wil go for Oj Mayo. Surely they have enough PGs, maybe trade our pick for one of their spares? http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2008/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=MockDraft-080520 Reply to this comment.

103. Jcon - May 20th, 2008 at 9:14 pm Dantoni played ball with Gallinari’s dad….for whatever it’s worth. Reply to this comment.

104. jrock - May 20th, 2008 at 9:27 pm the #6 and jeffries for calderon and brezec? i think that would work, but we’d have to resign calderon. espn’s trade machine won’t let me trade calderon till the end of the playoffs Reply to this comment.

105. David Crockett - May 20th, 2008 at 9:30 pm Author Comment Is D’Antoni acting GM or is Walsh in charge of personnel? I thought it was Walsh. If so, I’m not sold on Gallinari particularly given uncertainty about his willingness to play. Frankly, I think the Knicks should strongly consider a move down (or draft and trade). Unless a guy is gonna make a real impact I’d rather see the team pick up another back up who could give us some future flexibility. We have enough young developmental talents (e.g. Chandler, Balkman) along with emerging talent like Lee and Robinson. If the Knicks stay at #6 one player I’d stay away from at #6 (or altogether) is Eric Gordon. I don’t like his game at all. I just don’t think it translates to the NBA (reminds me of DeJuan Wagner). Reply to this comment.

106. Donald Trump - May 20th, 2008 at 9:39 pm The Knicks are not trading the draft pick. Forget that idea. Reply to this comment.

107. Danisrob - May 20th, 2008 at 9:42 pm If we draft a forward maybe trade Lee and Collins for Calderon and a pick? Reply to this comment.

108. daaarn - May 20th, 2008 at 9:46 pm F*CK! #6 and a contract for Calderon Reply to this comment.

109. GiantsKnickFan420 - May 20th, 2008 at 9:49 pm I dont think being at 6 is that bad.. clearly there is some level of dissapointment, we did have a fair shot at a good pick. Lots of options for at 6. We can trade down, im sure some team will like a player that fell out of the top 5. Rose,Beaz,Mayo,Lopez,Bayless are probably all gone. Some mocks already have us taking Danilo Gallinari, 6-9 swingman who shoots the 3pter exactly like Bargnani with very nice ball handling skills, fluid and atheletic. I can also see us taking Love- his outlet passes ignites a ton of breaks and is a good passer in the half court set. The only red flag about love is that in his scouting report teams were told to run more against love, he’ll get tired quickly. Westbrook and Joe Alexander are two darkhorses. Westbrook can flat out defend and is explosive on the break. Alexander can do just about evertthing on the offensive end and is an underated defender. Some say he reminds them too much of Keith van Horn but others say he can be better. Reply to this comment.